A Mammoth of Research

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You know, there’s so much science on TV and in the papers these days.

I mean, I share in the glory of science every bit as much as people who actually work at it. I certainly know much more than they do, after all, I used to edit the London Evening Standard. But all you people who think science is interesting, fun and useful; well, yes. But, you know, it costs money. Money that the BBC could be spending on other things!

I mean, instead of a “mammoth of research” behind St. Pancras, with all those arrogant scientists making smells and stuff, we could build a big circular tent and fill it with crap. Though I wouldn’t let that Brian Cox play there this time. “Things can only get better” – I don’t know! You’d think he owns the solar system, whatever that is. Personally I think that Giordano Bruno fellow was hugely overrated. Really, he turned cosmology into some kind of religion. He was probably after some funding.

Anyway, you people, listen. Science is just one of many wonderful areas of human endeavour. I mean, we have classics, fine art, English literature, journalism, drama, economics, accountancy, film, politics, philosophy of many different kinds, tiddlywinks, tennis (lawn and real), and science. We should get the balance right. I mean in a cultured society, when money is short, why should real tennis or merchant banking get less public subsidy than science? Martin Rees is just a bishop, and here in the Guardian I have an absolute license to bash the bishop in public.

Perhaps I shouldn’t have had the third brandy. Still, the editor is bound to be able to sort this bollocks out. Or he can use the last one I wrote, I’m sure no one will spot the difference.

[With, at least so far, no apologies to or from Simon Jenkins.]

[But with a follow up in the Guardian.]

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20 Responses to “A Mammoth of Research”

  1. For richer for poorer « Where the Sun hits the sky Says:

    [...] 26/06/2010 · Leave a Comment As the Institute of Engineering and Technology combs the Coalition Governments words and actions for good and bad news for engineers, as reported on the CaSE Blog, Jon Butterworth is left scraping the barrel in terms of reading yet another anti-science article from the ever hysterical Simon Jenkins, and then giving him both barrels in reply. [...]

  2. crosswordbob Says:

    One of the irritating downside to advanced technology being indistinguishable from magic is, of course, that idiots can and will bemoan time and money being spent developing the very tools that enable them to do their moaning.

    Worse, though, (IMO) is the practice of throwing utterly nonsensical arguments at scientists, then accusing them of closed-minded “faith” when they dismiss those arguments as the nonsense they are.

    I write as someone who had to leave a post-graduate degree course in pure mathematics owing to health problems; one could argue that there is a separation between pure maths and science, but there is certainly some common ground. Either way, I hope it will make your day a little brighter to know that it was in part your TV appearances discussing the LHC that gave me the resolve to take a small step back to academia by challenging myself to learn in detail some of the essential 20th century (21st might be overly ambitious ;-) ) advances in physics.

    If, for every vociferous half-wit that rants about science being of secondary importance, we can get one person to recognise its “beauty/necessity duality”, we will be on the right tracks.

    Anyway, preaching to the choir and all that (hmmm—was this the right place for that metaphor?); I just thought you might like to know you and yours are making a difference.

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  4. James Hayton Says:

    Nice spoof, you missed out the references to Nazi Germany, the Spanish inquisition and Pol Pot though.

  5. Sophie Says:

    Brilliant!
    That article was so infuriating but the backlash makes it almost worth it.

  6. Synchronium Says:

    Tbh, science is just one of many equally valid worldviews.

    David Tredinnick 4 Dictator!

  7. Andy Russell Says:

    Excellent work on getting a guest post from the big Jenk! All the usual reasoning and clarity I’ve come to expect his work.

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  9. Jon Butterworth Says:

    Thanks all! (especially crosswordbob)

    I wrote it simply to turn annoyance into amusement, which seems to have worked for quite a few people. I’m kind of stunned by the monster unleashed. It’s certainly an incomplete take-down, but I’m sure the ground will now be covered: http://blogs.nature.com/ue19877e8/ :-)

    The danger for me is that while the level of debate is set by bitter, ignorant and high-profile trolls, it’s hard to move on. A natural response might be either to disengage from public discussion, or to respond with a blanket hostility that can appear to justify the initial nonsense.

    So ridicule is IMHO the best response in this case. I’m pretty confident it’ll make exactly zero distance to the man himself, but if this a mutual support group, then so what? Everyone needs support now and then, especially when under public and unjustified attack. We can save the more reasoned discussion for people who are willing to engage in it.

  10. phayes Says:

    I think the funniest Jenkins article ever was his “I studied advanced maths to 16” article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/06/maths.alevels

  11. Not a Guest Post and not by Simon Jenkins « Where the Sun hits the sky Says:

    [...] #spoofjenks. This “Spoof Jenkins Day”, my friends tell me, is apparently the result of this post by scientist Jon Butterworth on his personal website in response to this article, written, [...]

  12. Why I’m not spoofing Jenks « 10minus9 Says:

    [...] physicist Jon Butterworth is clearly of the same opinion, and posted a spoof Simon Jenkins piece on his Life and Physics blog, which then inspired Jennifer Rohn to declare Monday “Spoof Jenkins Day”- which quickly [...]

  13. #SpoofJenks day « Where the Sun hits the sky Says:

    [...] Simon Jenkins. He wrote this piece in the Guardian and as a result Jon Butterworth of UCL wrote this piece to spoof it. This was taken up by Nature Blogs, who wrote this article promoting Spoof Jenkins day [...]

  14. Spoof Positive? « In the Dark Says:

    [...] to say I found the whole thing very amusing and wholeheartedly agree with Jon Butterworth (whose original spoof started it all off) who explained that his primary aim was to let off steam rather than try to [...]

  15. Money (That’s What I Want) « Life and Physics Says:

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  16. Ridiculing ridiculous science commentary « Open Parachute Says:

    [...] articles and blog posts spoofing Jenkins.  This was kicked off by physicist Jon Butterworth (see A Mammoth of Research). Others soon followed and UCL cell biologist Jennifer Rohn has been aggregating them in her blog [...]

  17. Some Links #5 « A Replicated Typo Says:

    [...] Jenkins writes something stupid, and in doing so invites a whole number of science bloggers to have their very own spoof Jenks day, in which (apparently) evil boffins seek [...]

  18. Science as Religion « Timlshort's Blog Says:

    [...] June 30, 2010 by timlshort Leave a Comment This is the claim made by opponents of public funding of science, recently and notably Simon Jenkins in The Guardian. This has garnered a hostile yet somewhat lighthearted response from science professionals: A Mammoth of Research by Jon Butterworth. [...]

  19. She wants revenge « Naturally Selected Says:

    [...] newspaper, Jon Butterworth (a physics professor at University College London) dashed off a quick blog post satirizing Jenkins. And that sparked off a veritable twitter storm, culminating in a Spoof Jenkins [...]

  20. The Links Effect | Not Exactly Rocket Science | News Says:

    [...] to such tripe, and launched #SpoofJenks Monday. I particularly loved the efforts from Matt Parker, Jon Butterworth, and Stephen Curry. Meanwhile, Imran Khan spoils the fun with a substantive response to Jenkins [...]

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